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Ep15 - Aidan Recieves Head... Trauma
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TANGEON, tangeon, tangeon, tangeon, tangeon, tangeon. Hello and welcome to tangent. I am the ever-wonderful Ethan Leith and.
Speaker 1I'm joined today by Brandon Usley. Hi Hi guys. Hi Hi Brandon, hi Hi Hi. Welcome to tangent, if you've never listened to this podcast before. The whole point of this podcast is we get a random word or phrase and then we discuss that word or phrase and see whatever tangents we go on. If you would like to send a prompt directly to our eyeballs or stream it in my ass, you can send it to Instagram at goingoner underscore tangent, or send it to tangentpodcastsuggestionsatgmailcom. Yeah. But either way, brandon, I'm afraid I'm going to have to skip asking you how you're doing today, because we are joined by a very special guest today, a very special, not so special guest. You know him, you love him, you don't. Actually, he does everything. He polishes boats, he um I don't.
Speaker 3He does everything. He polishes boats, that is everything.
Speaker 1He is both a dragon-filled dungeon and a dungeon-filled dragon.
Speaker 2It's Aiden Moore, Hello hello, it is I the one and only Aiden Moore. I don't polish boats, I don't even go near boats, actually. But what is the boat? Can you tell me what a boat is? No, the car.
Speaker 3I think it's a vessel that floats on water. I would have to say.
Speaker 2How would you know that, though, Brandon? How would you know? I don't know, Brandon.
Speaker 3If something floats. Yeah, I don't know if there's even a test I could do for that.
Speaker 2Yeah, because what if you put it in the water and it sinks? Then it won't play.
Speaker 3Tell you what? It's definitely not a fucking boat. How are you?
Speaker 2I'm doing alright, man, I'm doing alright. It's been a busy few days for me, but I've had a very wonderful day off. Today had a few little chocolate eclairs, had some spaghetti carbonara and I'm feeling fine and fancy free. What about you, brandon? How are you feeling?
Speaker 3today. Well, thank you so much for asking, aiden. No one else ever does. I'm feeling Ah, ah, ah, oh, oh oh.
Speaker 2Oh, oh, my ducca boy.
Speaker 1Sorry, that wasn't the scream. Oh fuck man, fuck, ah, ah, Ah, ah, ah Ah. Keep talking, no fuck you.
Speaker 3I'm not telling anyone now. Aiden Ethan, how are you mate? You want me. I want to know what you were the other day.
Speaker 1I don't care, I see you.
Speaker 2No, let's get back into it. Okay, okay, brandon, how have you?
Speaker 3been Hang on. I'm waiting for Ethan to start screaming again.
Speaker 1It was simply because you were shaming me. That was what the scream was. It wasn't the I was the cube.
Speaker 3I was the cube yeah we weren't starting the thing. Well, tell you what I'm feeling. Ah my nibbles, my nibbles.
Speaker 2My nibbles, my dick and slash all balls. Oh, oh, oh, right, oh.
Speaker 1Oh, okay. Well, aiden, do you know what time it is? I believe I do. Yes, go on. What time is it? It's prompt time. Thank you, boy, and your prize for guessing that it's prompt time is Aiden. What's our prompt for this week?
Speaker 2The left-ass cheek of Theodore Roosevelt.
Speaker 3Well, well, well, my old nemesis.
Speaker 1Theodore Roosevelt's left-ass cheek. We meet again Is it Roosevelt?
Speaker 3I thought it was Roosevelt.
Speaker 2Am I? I pronounce it Roosevelt, but it's probably pronounced Roosevelt because it's 00.
Speaker 1Roosevelt Well, yeah, well, that was what I had assumed, but also chose is with two O's, for some reason.
Speaker 2I chose with one.
Speaker 3Hang on, hang on, I'll ask you a real life question. For a man who can't spell Choses with two O's, no it's Choses with one O, isn't it?
Speaker 2Hold on, yeah, choses one, choses one O Ethan Ethan.
Speaker 3It chooses two O's.
Speaker 2No yeah when you no, because I got Pokemon, I choose you. You know that's two O's, but then I chose that. Pokemon is C-H-O-S-E.
Speaker 1Okay, hang on. There is a word which is a double O, that shouldn't be Blood. Okay, yeah, that's good enough. That's, I'll illustrate my point.
Speaker 3I was really having a stroke there for a second. I was like hang on, Choses with two O's.
Speaker 2No, Ethan said it with such confidence that I was I was like I was.
Speaker 1I promise you, I promise you, it is, it's true, it is true.
Speaker 3No, it's not True spell with a U-E.
Speaker 1What we've found out is it's Theodore Roosevelt. Yeah.
Speaker 2That is it, theodore. To Luzerville To me, this is a place in France, if you didn't know.
Speaker 3I didn't, but thank you.
Speaker 1Ethan, I did.
Speaker 3You know what you didn't know. How does it spell chose? Yeah, you did. Anyway, moving back on to the left arse cheek, why specifically? I have a question though why specifically the left arse cheek? What is it?
Speaker 2done oh many things. It's probably been sat on just a bit less than the right arse cheek. Do you know why?
Speaker 3I presume he's right footed or he got his leg chewed off by a bear or something. Well, he was shot but that's irrelevant.
Speaker 2It's the fact that he was right-sided, so he did things with his right hand. I'm making this up, by the way.
Speaker 3Oh wow, it's a fact checker. That sounded again just enough confidence.
Speaker 2It just sounded real Think about it.
Speaker 1I believe it, although I am currently sitting on my left arse cheek more, but that's because I'm leaning over towards the microphone. Oh that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3I'm sat completely in the middle because I'm on a bed, so it's you know. Yeah, van, you're right-handed, aren't you?
Speaker 2I am, and Ethan, you're right-handed also.
Speaker 1Yeah, so you're left-handed, Ethan.
Speaker 2No, I've not been cursed, yeah.
Speaker 3The devil hasn't touched us?
Speaker 2Yeah, we're all safe. The main thing is when you sit down. Do you sit down at an angle and therefore hit your arse cheek on the chair, like hit your right arse first and then your left arse cheek second, or do you just hit it perfectly smack on each time I would have to say it depends on what I'm sitting on.
Speaker 1I think it depends on which direction I'm coming from, but most of the time, no, I don't think that's a thing to me.
Speaker 3I'm pretty sure I sit in between both at the same time. Once I let gravity take over the work, once I'm about to sit down, I have time to align myself centrally.
Speaker 1You're one of those people that just plunks themselves down and launches everyone off the sofa.
Speaker 2He lives on a sea-sort. That's how you know.
Speaker 3I would just like to say I'm so skinny and small that I could jump with both feet onto a chair, onto a spoof, and people would barely know that I'm there.
Speaker 1It was like my old friend that I used to go rock climbing with. His name was Jack. He was like half the way I was, so anytime I fell off the wall, he would then go halfway up.
Speaker 3I don't understand.
Speaker 1I don't get it Because he's belaying me, so he's doing the rope to make sure.
Speaker 3You miss the vital part of your not… that's like sport, doesn't have any rock climbing experience.
Speaker 1Yeah, that is typically how much rock climbing was I have a lot of rock climbing experience.
Speaker 3I just sometimes forget the fact that bouldering and rock climbing are slightly different. Yes, okay. So, I'm used to climbing up surfaces without the need of a pussy rope.
Speaker 1You know what I?
Speaker 3mean Just free-balling it the whole way.
Speaker 1A pus-alan-em-us rope.
Speaker 3A pus-alan-em-us rope. Also, to be fair, when I did do rock climbing, I used an auto-bile, because they have technology now that allows you to do it on your own instead of needing a buddy. But most….
Speaker 1I think they actually set up the climbing centre that I used to go to set up their first auto-bile, like a month before I left the country for a year.
Speaker 3Where'd you go? That was great.
Speaker 2Well done, Lydon. No, I always found it.
Speaker 1You guys proud of yourself.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3Are you? Happy with your accomplishment oh yeah, it was… we're not even in the same fucking house and that was just so synchronised.
Speaker 1But yeah, I went a couple months ago and there was only one auto-bile there.
Speaker 3Oh, fair enough.
Speaker 2Do you know what's scarier than rock climbing? By the way, trent Walls are like scaling or going down like a completely sheer surface. I've done it once in my life and, oh my God was I terrified. Oh wait, I'm absailing. Yeah, that's the term.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I actually think… I find absailing less scary than rock climbing. Yeah, me too, just for the sake of like. As soon as you start, you're already relying on the rope.
Speaker 1However, with rock climbing especially without an auto-bile rock climbing like there's like half of a drop of free fall before the rope catches you in rock climbing, which hurts by the way, oh yeah, it's even worse if you're doing lead climbing, because me… Sorry, excuse me, because me and same friend Jack, we did a lead climbing course, which is where you take the rope up with you and clip it in as you go, and as part of that we were doing practicing falls, because the falls tend to be like twice the size and the instructor, when I went up to do… we was like, okay, we're just going to do a little fall practice. He told my friend to just stop taking in the rope and because the rope's going below you you can't really tell. So… I didn't know that actually half of the rope was slack and so when I let go and I just descended half of the wall, which is like they're pretty high, like these are, like you know, like five story walls that shit's terrifying.
Speaker 2So the thing which I'm hearing, though, is that the climbing isn't terrifying, it's the falling what is absailing, but just the continued state of falling.
Speaker 1No, it's like a slope, isn't it like?
Speaker 3walking or like hopping almost.
Speaker 2Yeah, however, when you're 13 and again terrified of heights, I didn't mention that I'm deathly afraid of falling.
Speaker 3This. You know what? This could be the reason you find it more scary. Yeah, I think we cracked it.
Speaker 1I'm good, I'm put it out there. Yeah, I think that's why it's more scary.
Speaker 2It's the curse of being over six foot and being terrified of heights. God, you must be scared all the time. I look down and I go every time.
Speaker 1I say that as someone who's six foot one.
Speaker 3I say that as moving on. Yeah, go on, Brandon. How tall are you? Uh, taller than your mum.
Speaker 2Oh, is that your mum a joke in 2023? Oh my. God hey look if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, but no, yeah, I don't know. I feel like a scarier thing. I'm trying to think of what, like, one of the scariest things I've ever done is being eaten alive. Well, it's changed it up. I haven't written that yet For that one.
Speaker 1We need to go back to Theo's episode.
Speaker 2Oh God, cross-overs.
Speaker 1Yummy Is this a crossover episode. Yummy nummy.
Speaker 3I don't know what is the scariest thing you've ever done. Like scary, not like tough or challenging, like terrifying actually scary, Apart from the wall thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, um, I don't 100% know. I mean, there's a lot of things that I've been like. This is genuinely scary. I mean, like rock climbing was always a bit of an adrenaline rush, especially with lead climbing. But I think, if I like, think about in recent memory what the this is fucking terrifying was when I was just on the cusp of getting over my fear of roller coasters. Uh, I went to Alton towers, and this was only last year really.
Speaker 2This is the big thing you've liked on, isn't it?
Speaker 1Yeah, no, no, it wasn't last year, it was two years ago now. Uh, and I was on Nemesis Alton towers and I couldn't tell you how scared I was. Like I locked myself in because I was like I'm just I'm, I'm locking myself in because the the my social anxiety to ask someone to be let out, trumps the terror that was going on this ride. Um, but I literally felt a bit like I wanted to pee myself, like like I felt it, it was there, I was, I was ready to pee.
Speaker 2You were ready and waiting. I was ready to pee.
Speaker 1And I went on it and I think it's the I've not gotten adrenaline rush because, like you know, I love roller coasters now and I'm not, you know, massively scared of them, other than you know. Obviously they're designed to be scary, that's the fun, but like they don't, the thought of going on one isn't something that I'm like, oh, I can't do that. Um, but when I came off Nemesis, I literally had to go and take a sit down because I felt so like I had had so much adrenaline in my body that I felt sick physically and I was just shaking.
Terrifying Rollercoasters and Head Injuries
Speaker 3That. That reminds me a lot of. Do you remember when you came to Southend and we went on the? We went to the Adventure Island place in Southend. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and you do. This was this. I think this was after this nemesis thing, but it was scary enough that Ethan still didn't go on it. That this point and I know you know I was fucking terror. I like rollercoaster. I've been on rollercoaster a lot since I was like the age of nine. I was Shitting myself.
Speaker 2What was it? One of those swing things which is just like a giant disc which spins up all the way around and then comes back down? Yeah, it.
Speaker 1I looked at it. It was very high up and I'm like the south end, the Adventure Island or whatever it's called, is more of kind of like a fun, fair construction sort of thing, and I was like I don't trust those struts to take me that high because I don't know, last time that's had a safety inspection. Oh yeah, I mean well, probably like ready recently is a rollercoaster.
Speaker 2Yeah, they have to do constant checks, but it doesn't mean it's not terrifying. It's like Brighton Pier. There's an amusement Area there where they've got like several rides, but it's on the fucking pier. So I went on like the log flume ride Once with my mates when I was there and, oh my god, being at the very front of the log flume ride, being over like 20 stone and Going on this vickety old log and you're just going, please don't break, please don't fall, oh god.
Speaker 3Yeah, especially because underneath Brighton Pier it's not even like just water either, like there's like some shit, and it goes out quite a ways to be fair as well. I remember when, when we went, all I could talk about was the fact that they had, like these really heavy machinery on On on wood, that some of it looked like it hadn't been changed since the 60s and I think it's the fact that normally it's like this is just one plank of wood and I can see directly down.
Speaker 1Oh, I'm not sure how I feel about that. Yeah, yeah, I did. I did have another thought about, actually, what I think my scariest experience was, which was Surprise, surprise, in Israel.
Speaker 2Oh my god, but this is way serious wait Carrie.
Speaker 1Yes, I did, I did so, they, they used to be this little tradition.
Speaker 1So so in the, in the old city of Acre, there was a, a Behind the, the kind of the old city, in the little dock they used to do these little thing I'm gonna be telling me this yeah these Adventure boat rides where you could pay I think was something like 20 shekels, which is the equivalent of like five pounds, and they'll take you out for like 15 minutes and and if you do it in the day it's pretty tame. If you do it at night, and especially if it's all adults on the boat, those people sometimes go Like fairly wild. And so the way that the, the city of Acre, the old city, was constructed, it's kind of like a almost like a seafort, so you have like Deepwater, a plateau onto like rocky water, which is also horrible to swim in, because I did that once and trying to get out I got smashed against those rocks pretty hard and Then the sea wall, which is like a like an old, kind of like fortress wall sort of construction, and they will take you Full speed. And one of the things I hated the most was that they would always go straight to the wall and then last second turn and what and? But they'd always like put it straight in, like they put it like in reverse. You go like it was like a Handbrake sort of thing.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, and the last time I ever went on them it was like my send-off. They were going so quickly that I was literally like coming out my seat constantly and they went straight at that wall. They turned and they did not bother to slow down and I literally saw like the wall was getting close, from close to like shit and then he, he like turned so hard that the boat was just on its side and I could, I could have reached out and touched that wall. Oh I, I was literally. It was low on time. I was like right, I'm getting ready to get chucks in the ocean Off of off a speedboat. Hmm, yeah, I luckily didn't, but he came very close to us coming out.
Speaker 3I very much imagine that guy being like this is gonna fucking freak him out and then realizing a bit too late how close he was and go like With it.
Speaker 1With how steep that turned, I wouldn't be surprised if he was like he survived and went.
Speaker 3I'm fucking good I am.
Speaker 1Yeah, they'd always. They'd always do this thing where they take you out into like the deeper water and then cut the engine and Then just like freak tourists out and shit.
Speaker 3They go like they got.
Speaker 1They're gonna, we're out of fuel, we got, we've got none left or like the engines broken or some shit like that, and you just sit there for like five minutes being like, okay, this is this like a joke again. Yeah, cheeky, it's been so long Well.
Speaker 3Well, that's fair enough. Yeah, I just can't think of one that like is yeah, you can't think terrifying Well not that I've experienced like myself in terms of like true terror. Obviously I've been like rides and stuff, but like nothing. Where I was like I'm legitimately gonna die Like this, like I am, I fucking could have died. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, not really, not really you know I can.
Speaker 1You, can you think of anything scary than absailing Um?
Speaker 2Well, I've got several, if you want. Do you want one where it's just me being terrified for like two hours, or would you want one where I genuinely feared for my life?
Speaker 1Yeah, genuine fear for life sounds sounds more fun Okay.
Speaker 2Okay, to picture the scene. I am approximately five or six years old.
Speaker 3Oh, this is gonna be good.
Speaker 2Whenever there's a child involved is always gonna be in Capcom, I, my mum, has been working Throughout the day, and so I've been left in the care of my grandmother, and it's just her, me and my brother we are walking through Park. Oh, sense of that, sense of the first letter, okay, all right, walking through a, walking through a park.
Speaker 1You're walking through.
Speaker 2Entertainment. Yeah, I'm walking through Illumination Entertainment Park and we get to this area. Right, we get to this area when my grandmother sees a friend of hers and they start chatting. Now, me and my brother, being young kids, are easily bored, so we sit on some railing, like really incredibly low railings, and he starts, you know, like Leaning back on them. So you know, like doing a test of balance without falling over, and me, being the younger brother, I copy him. Now, I fail at copying him, but I don't think anything of it, until we get up to go away and a random woman comes by and says to me hey, is your head supposed to be bleeding? Oh, I Touched the back of my head and my palm is then covered in blood.
Speaker 1Yeah, heads bleed a lot.
Speaker 2Yes, texas it turns out that I cracked my skull open. Um, and it had, oh, it had to be glued back together, and that was the only time I feared for my fucking life.
Speaker 1What? Okay, see, it's very interesting because I've also had my skull cracked open. But when that happened to me, I was like this is a thing.
Speaker 3Okay, I've never had any part of my body broken, but like also Wait, so hang on a second. So how? You're five years old, you're with your grandmother and your brother.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3And neither of those fucking people worked out that you were bleeding.
Speaker 2Well, I wasn't. They weren't looking at the back of my head, they were looking at my face and there was hey, is your.
Speaker 1Head supposed to be bleeding? Yeah, does that yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, imagine that's the question you ask as well, not like, like. Oh my god, are you okay? It's supposed to be bleeding.
Speaker 2I'm still like not over it by the fact that just this random woman comes up and asks the question hey, yeah, it's your head supposed to be letting out a very important bodily fluid?
Speaker 1But yeah, heads heads in general bleed a lot because I, I remember, because, because I, I did a very similar thing. There were a lot of stories about I mean it. I to this day actually don't remember how it happened. There were stories I I remember just falling over in the playground and not thinking much of it, same as you, aiden, and then all of a sudden I was in my dad's car and I got blood all over his car seats because I was being taken to hospital. I have my head glued, yeah, but um, wow, I I have had situations where I've been like A lot more scared because I, like I, I ran into a garage door once and I put my hand, my hand against my head and and heads bleed a lot. I didn't know that heads bleed a lot more than any other part of your body. When I touched my head for like two seconds, I bought my head, that my hand, that I was covered in blood and I was like, oh, I'm dying, I'm literally dying.
Funny Stories and Musings
Speaker 3This is it Bye, bye, bye. If you died from running into a garage door that's f***ing evolution in action you would have won the darmin award for sure. He was just running so fast.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm so fast that his head came clean off.
Speaker 1He didn't even hit anything. He was just running so quick. It was just residual like air resistance.
Speaker 3Your dad gets used to the hospital, it's like the f***ing mortuary or whatever, and they're like oh my god, honey die you go for you know kids and garage doors.
Speaker 1Yeah, f***ing good he had. He had new shoes. He had to run quick.
Speaker 3So that is that the story you bought, they just they just made him.
Speaker 1And you run into a garage door. I want the story now.
Speaker 3I need the story of why little you decided that was a fun idea. I can't well.
Speaker 1I didn't do it. Obviously, I did not deliberately run into the garage door.
Speaker 2I believe in you, ethan though I believe that you would run headfirst into a garage door and say check out this bit.
Speaker 3I can also see you being like I can't even hear Hang on a second.
Speaker 1I was. No, I was because I, because I had, I had to get it stitched up, but I was um 16 at the time and I think I was just going in to get my bike because my friends were going off and I already started to run into the garage door. You ran into it, not walked yeah.
Speaker 1People leaving, I had to go grab my bike quick. They were gonna leave without me, so I ran to go grab my bike. The garage door was open because my mum was doing gardening and and whang. I came straight off my feet.
Speaker 3Hang on, was it? Okay, I need to imagine this properly. Was it an open like a door, like a normal house door type things, like you know, opens like inwards, like to the left or right or was it a drop down garage door? It's a drop down garage door.
Speaker 2Was it like an automatic one which just slides down, or is it one of those ones which kind of folds out and it's one of the ones that folds out.
Speaker 1Oh my.
Speaker 3God, so it also in conclusion either. It was like fuck, I need to go get my bike ran full speed into a very slow moving garage door and it went feet in the air and then hit the ground. Okay, right.
Speaker 1So the door was stationary.
Speaker 2You must have known that the door was open then.
Speaker 1What do you mean? I did know the door was open. I went to go through it and I hit my head. How have you guys ever walked into a wall? You're so stupid. You walked into a station in a wall. What do you want me to say?
Speaker 3Oh, I know what I should have said to you at the time, duck, thank you. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1I just come on the show and I just get ridiculed. Clearly there was some point where I had just not looked where I was going, in the same sense of someone walking into a wall, which I guarantee you guys have done.
Speaker 3It was just the image of my head made it funny.
Speaker 2My bicycle runs through the idiot that hits his head and goes like head over heels.
Speaker 3In my head it was a loony to his cartoon.
Speaker 1I wish that would have been a lot more fun.
Speaker 3Except the reality was oh, I'm about to die, I'm bleeding.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I thought that was it. I was like this is it, this is it comes for me. Have you guys ever seen the film the Night Comes?
Speaker 2No, it sounds too pornographic.
Speaker 3I've seen the Night man Come Earth. Yeah, it does sound pornographic.
Speaker 1This just reminded me of. It's a. I don't know where it's from, but it's one of those like Korean action movie type things where it is a tiny bit of story for about 10 minutes and then the next two hours of the film are just one long, continuous fight scene. What Like? Imagine John Wick, but less story.
Speaker 3Oh my God, wow, that sounds sick. What's it called? The?
Speaker 1Night Comes. The Night Comes, I think, is that Night With An N or Night With A KN.
Speaker 3Is that comes with an N.
Speaker 1Night With A U.
Speaker 2With A U oh sick, the Night Comes, oh you bet they do.
Speaker 3It was a very long fight scene.
Speaker 1It's called the Night Comes For Us.
Speaker 3Oh, that's even worse Now it's an orgy.
Speaker 2I thought it was just you and me. It's a bit of you know one time.
Speaker 1Ito, a gangland enforcer enforcer is caught amidst a treacherous of violent insurrection with his triad crime family upon his return home from a stint abroad. Wow, it's 10 minutes of the returning home, two hours of fight and the entire film spoilers but not really ends with him driving a car full speed at a dock filled with like at least 50 people. Wow, so all running back at his car.
Speaker 3It ends with terrorism. Just what you're saying.
Speaker 2Yes. What a movie.
Speaker 1Yeah, if you want to identify it like that, in the same way that John Wick starts with murder.
Speaker 3I think actually, doesn't it start with yeah, it starts with, like animal cruelty.
Speaker 2Well, what is the specific term for when you kill an animal? Is it just animal cruelty?
Speaker 3I think so. I don't think we care enough about animals to give it like I can name. It's not like as cool as like infanticide or something. Slaughter.
Speaker 1An animal.
Speaker 2Dog slaughter, because you've got mad slaughter. Surely there should be something like pet slaughter or horse slaughter, glue fat.
Speaker 1So there isn't, but the international journal for crime, justice and social democracy has proposed therioside.
Speaker 3Hang on, hang on. Who the fuck? The international journal for crime, justice and social democracy? Yes, who is the leader of this journal and why is he judge, jury and executioner?
Speaker 1Who is this person, I don't know. I think it's a scientific journal, so I assume lots of different people.
Speaker 3Oh, okay, I thought you meant the international journal is in like a magazine and I was like, no, why did they have the authority on it? What? Who is this person?
Speaker 1Although this is from 2014 by a guy called P Bernie, which starts tough tough If killing tough.
Speaker 2It's P Bernie. It's P Bernie.
Speaker 1Okay, hang on. Hang on because the way it starts right is if the killing of animals by humans is as harmful to them as homicide is to humans. Right, yeah, cool, if killing something is as harmful as killing something else, we shouldn't do this.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3I always like when they use the term animal right, because animal is so broad Like. That means everything, so like. But I wouldn't say that emotionally, killing a dog is the same as stepping on a jellyfish. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2There's different levels of If you stepped on a jellyfish, it gets stung, probably.
Speaker 3Well you know about. Okay, I'm stepping on a jellyfish with a brother boot.
Speaker 1I've been stung by a jellyfish before.
Speaker 3Where On its penis? No the most.
Speaker 2No, it's actually on his left. Arse cheek no.
Speaker 1It was all over my body because After jellyfish season in Aka all the jellyfish stings get crushed up in the water and we didn't know that. So we all went swimming and then we kept getting stung and we were like this kind of hurts we should probably get out. And we then were like, yeah, let's kind of get out the water because we keep getting stung.
Speaker 3Wow. So even after the jellyfish have left, they're like wait two weeks. Yeah, you don't want to be in the water. That's tough, that's tough, anyway, continue.
Speaker 1So what are you saying about stepping on a jellyfish?
Speaker 3Basically, I think it's. I wouldn't say it's emotionally the same thing to kill a jellyfish as it would be to kill a puppy.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, massively, because a jellyfish doesn't even really have pain receptors in the same way.
Speaker 3Right, yeah, but they're all animals. So I think there is a line, but you have to draw it somewhere.
Speaker 1Yes, and the line is how tasty they are. I agree.
Speaker 3I completely agree.
Speaker 2I mean, have you ever had fried horse? I had a test.
Speaker 1So, yeah, that was literally the joke I was about to make. Anyway, guys, have you guys enjoyed our talk about Theodore Roosevelt's left ass cheek?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I've quite enjoyed it.
Speaker 1It was all right yeah.
Speaker 3It was the couple of us.
Speaker 2Oh, actually I wish to have a big fun for my time.
Speaker 3There's this cut Right, so we'll be right back pick up from 32 minutes, right yeah.
Speaker 1I mean, we hope you've enjoyed it. It's been a pleasure having you.
Speaker 2Oh, I'm always a pleasure to be here. I don't know.
Speaker 1I thought you said goodbye, you have been here before.
Speaker 3This is true.
Speaker 2Is there anything you'd like to promote while you're here.
Speaker 1All right, fair enough Play.
Speaker 2Bulls 3. Play Bulls Escape 3. That's my pitch.
Speaker 3I haven't even played it, but play it. We are sponsored by Bulls.
Speaker 1Escape. 3. Play Cookie Clicker.
Speaker 3Play Cookie Clicker. I said God.
Speaker 1Well, we really hope you've enjoyed this episode. You, the person who's listening to it, the public, you, yeah, I'm going to see you, derek Michael, oh no.
Speaker 2Oh, Derek and Michael.
Speaker 3You mean Derek or Michael oh?
Speaker 1Derek and Michael, if you're listening together, I know you've wanted to do it for a very long time.
Speaker 3Just do it, man Just give in.
Speaker 1Just kiss each other. You'll love it.
Speaker 2Just turn to face each other and, in this moment of quiet reflection, lean in and touch each other on the lips.
Speaker 1I hope that we're now really responsible for a Derek and a Michael getting married.
Speaker 3I want to be there.
Speaker 1Anyway. So, as always, you can send any prompts, and we are going to be taking Christmas prompts, as it is now December, the festive season. Ho ho, ho, it is. Yes, it definitely is. Please send your festive prompts to. Well, it will be for them.
Speaker 3I know I was, I was. I didn't just stop breaking the illusion. It is, it definitely is.
Speaker 1Your sarcastic tone broke the illusion already Send your Christmas prompts to at going underscore on a underscore, tangent or any prompts you have. As always, we are desperate, please. Or send them to a project Pogent, pogent, pogent. Send them to Pogent. Send them to Pogent. Send them to tangent podcast suggestions at gmailcom and we'll pick it up from there. But as always and until next time, I am Santa's.
Speaker 3Left Bollock I am the leftover jellyfish sting.
Speaker 2We'll see you next time.
Speaker 3Bye.
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